@itsallyduhh mesmerized us with this fantastic photo of Andres Torres last night when we recorded at Zeke’s. It’s burned into the back of our skulls, and now yours, too.
All three of us watched the Reds dismantle the Giants man-parts on Monday night from the press box. Thank god we didn’t pay to watch this travesty of a game.
We did take a trip to Zeke’s afterwards with Ally Williams (@itsallyduhh) and Jen Cosgriff (@jencosgriff) to record our thoughts on the game, the second half, fans running on the field and Bud Norris?
We’ll be back in the press box on August 5 when the Giants take on the Braun-less Brewers.
From left to right: Ben, Willie, Chad. This is about 4 hours BV (Before Venable)
Press play above to listen to our brief, zany, and irreplaceable “conversation” between us and @jencosgriff as we dissected the Giants tough loss, bare thighs, boobs, and punching people in the face. Recorded in the wee hours of the morning at Zeke’s in San Francisco. Very limited quantities of alcohol were consumed.
“Extra Baggs: The Giants would turn Lincecum into a late-inning reliever “in a
heartbeat,” according to one club source, if they had another starting
pitcher in the system ready to take his place in the rotation.
How would he feel about that?
“I’m always open. It’s just, right now I don’t want to be open to
it,” said Lincecum, adding he is committed to remaining a starter for
the rest of this season. “I’m sure if my career takes that turn, I’m
definitely open to changes, especially if it’s beneficial to the team
I’m playing for.””
Armchair Manager
Do you keep Gaudin in the rotation?
How do you set up the coming weeks?
More rest for starters or skip the 5th spot when possible.
Skip Lincecum in AZ?
On Deck
Quick 2 games at home vs. Toronto, then a 9 game road trip through AZ, Pit and ATL, all winning teams
June is going to be rough: 18 of 27 games are on the road
Tweet At Me, Bruh
Willie: @TortureCast: I’ll keep on this juice fast as long as Lincecum remains a starter. #mightlose30pounds
Chad: Tom Tolbert – @byronjr23: Halos 6 outs from being swept by the Astros..It would be a 4 game sweep no less..Fun fact: Astros payroll 17 mill..Hamilton salary 17.5 mill”
Yeah, we missed a show, but they went 1-6 that week and would’ve had to have recorded the show on Zoloft. So, we skipped it. This week was a little better….
Oh, and by the way, Chad will be covering the A’s-Giants game on Thursday, 5/30 (12:45pm) from the press box, so be sure to tune in for sober tweets during the game.
Talking Points
Giants have been scuffling. Now in second place, 1 back of AZ
Last year, after 51 games, Giants were 27-24, 5.5 GB of LAD, 1 game back of what they are now: 28-23
Discuss my Uncle’s memorial game
Giants have gone 5-8 since our last show…
The Week in Review
Injuries: Broken pinkie for Vogelsong, out 6-8 weeks
Injuries: Casilla out with leg surgery to remove a cyst from his tibia. Expected to return after the ASG
Rosario sent down to AAA to make room for Kickham’s start tomorrow
Pagan’s inside the park homer walk off
The Big Question
Is Kickham the right choice to replace Vogelsong?
Tweet At Me, Bruh
Willie: @djp4cal: “Booing Posey is like booing America.”
Hey, the Giants are in first, the Dodgers in last. What else is there to be happy about?!
Talking Points
Giants have second best record in NL, in first place, Dodgers in last, took 3/4 from 1st place Braves
Giants rotation getting better, but still 12th in NL for starters (4.25 ERA)
Zito (3-1, 2.75 ERA) and Bumgarner (4-1, 2.18 ERA) have remained mostly issue-free, but Lincecum (3-2, 4.07 ERA) hasn’t achieved true consistency and Vogelsong (1-3, 7.78 ERA) has one quality start in seven appearances.
Cain won his first two May starts, yielding three runs over 15 1/3 innings. That’s a 1.76 ERA.
The Week in Review
Lost 2/3 vs Philly, won 3/4 from ATL
Giants now have the BEST BA in the NL at .266, 3rd in runs, 3rd in RBI
The Big Question
Can Lincecum perform like this again? 7 innings, 0 runs, 2 hits. Vintage.
Giants ASG dark horse, go!
Armchair Manager
Should Gaudin move up in depth? 21 IP, 1.27 ERA, 21K, 15H, .195 BAA
Tweet At Me, Bruh
Willie: kyleconaway: Hey @Williedills, I love you and all, but your #Giants can go straight to hell. #GoBraves #TomahawkChop4Life
Chad: “Thomas Todd @HammerheadT @chadk21 @williedills @friedduck @TortureCast Damn, why didn’t we think of that?” That’s right, we’re on YOUTUBE!
Willie and Chad kept this podcast much shorter than usual, mostly because Willie wanted to throw himself out of his apartment window after that crushing, epic, utterly pathetic choke-job the Warriors pulled in San Antonio. They blow a 16 point lead with less than 4 minutes left!! Then leave Ginobli THAT WIDE OPEN for a 3 pointer with 3 seconds left in double OT!!!!??
But, we digress and get back to talking Giants baseball and their tonic that was a 6 game winning streak.
Talking Points
Giants have now swept every other team in the NL west, mental edge from here on out?
0.5 ahead of COL, 3rd best record in NL after tonight’s loss
After 32 games last year, they were 15-17 and 6 GB of LA
The Week in Review
Cain won his first start!
Panda caught fire, Scutero hitting again, Posey getting back to normal Posey
The Big Question
Vogelsong: 7.20 ERA after 6 starts. Can he work through this?
We welcome Eric Nathanson to the show. The man behind 2outhits.com and a Giants fan out of…ahem, Chicago?! We start out the show trying to understand how such a die-hard Giants fan developed this way WITHOUT EVER HAVING BEEN TO SAN FRANCISCO! Willie also tests both Eric and Chad’s knowledge with a little Giants trivia.
Talking Points
What the hell is going on?! The sky is falling!! 5 losses in a row!
The Week in Review
Lost 2/3 to AZ, swept by SD. 4 out of those 5 could’ve easily been wins, have only been outscored by 7 runs over the 5 game losing streak (3 went extra innings)
The Big Question
Vogelsong and Cain? Can they right the ship quickly?
Is it time to send Hector down? Could we use some bullpen depth?
Should Marco be moved down in the lineup?
Tweet At Me, Bruh
Chad: Jason Collins @jasoncollins344hAll the support I have received today is truly inspirational. I knew that I was choosing the road less traveled but I’m not walking it alone
Willie: MLB: “Everybody knows somebody who’s gay. If you can’t deal with it in 2013, you need to go somewhere and hide in a cave.” – @LaTroyHawkins32
Eric: @pourmecoffee: Gay people play sports. You can deal with this America. I believe in you.
Our New Favorite Guy
Willie: Timmy: getting back into his stride perhaps? Lotsa Ks, less wild and finally accepting of Posey perhaps?
Chad: Bumgarner: 1.87 ERA, 3-0 sub 1 WHIP, country bumpkin can PITCH!
Ben: Brandon Crawford: Seriously, Matt Kemp WISHES he was as gifted a hitter as Brandon Crawford.
Eric: Hunter Pence: That guy plays every play like it’s his last. And how can you not love the stilted motions?
Honorary Mention: Jason Collins and Robbie Rogers: Look, we’re all San Franciscans here (well, some honorary). This should be pretty obvious.
We Should Hate This Guy
Chad: I’m abstaining for positive energy and kharma for the team
Willie: Chris Broussard – slamming Jason Collins on the air as not a christian because he’s gay. Nice job being a bigot, homey. Good luck with that.
Ben: Almost anybody who writes in the comments section.
Eric: I have the same hate for Broussard, but love for Giants
Why We Will Win It All
Chad: If we stop playing like shit
Willie: We are getting the slump out of the way early. After 5 straight losses we’re only 2 GB and still above the Dodgers. Suck on that.
Ben: Depth depth depth. Also, Nick Noonan.
Eric: Bruce Bochy is the best in the biz in a short series.
We want to thank Eric Nathanson for joining us on this extra-long, but thought-provoking episode of Torturecast! Don’t forget to follow him @2outhits on Twitter!
It’s been a while, but the boys are back with the first podcast of the 2013 regular season.
Talking Points
Giants return with 21 of 25 members from the 2012 WS team
Surprise guys who made the team, Nick Noonan and Guillermo Quiroz
We talk a bit about our amazing experience at Media Day in February, and the opportunity to interview many of the Giants players. (if you missed it, go to our YouTube channel for the treasure trove of video interviews with Posey, Lincecum, Belt, Crawford, Zito, Romo, Bochy)
The Week in Review
Giants first week of the 2013 season and they go 4-3, taking 2 of 3 from LA and losing the last 2 to StL, and winning the first one from Colorado.
Pence is HAWT: 3 HRs in the first 7 games, .292
Lots of cold hitters: Scutaro, Posey, Belt, Torres all under .200
The Big Question
Any concern about Cain or Vogelsong or Lincecum? Nahhhh
Armchair Manager
Would you have pulled Cain earlier on Sunday?
Tweet At Me, Bruh
Chad: “Bay Area Sports Guy @BASportsGuy Get me some shots of sad cheerleaders, stat! AND Wendy Thurm @hangingsliders: Obligatory sad cheerleader photo dot tumblr”
Willie: @Nicolevolgelsong is now following us, we win
Our New Favorite Guy
Willie: Chad Gaudin – great pickup, really good stuff and looks like he’ll be a fixture in the pen this year
Chad: The designer for the Giants WS Gold jerseys…SF logo on a HOME jersey?
Willie: Clayton Kershaw
Ben: Jose Castillo
Why We Will Win It All
Chad: Because they have home gold jerseys with the SF on the chest
Willie: This team should be better with no Huff, Torres back and Lincecum should at least be better than last year, full season of Pence and Zito having a resurgence